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	<title>Comments on: Sober Coaches: &#8220;Hired Powers&#8221; for the Rich &amp; Recovering&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Gail Schoentag</title>
		<link>http://www.drinkingdiaries.com/2010/01/10/celebrities-and-sober-coaches/comment-page-1/#comment-32683</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail Schoentag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AA has become so watered down by half of the people who have not done the steps, followed the traditions and they then make money off addiction. These people call themselves Sober Coaches,  form communities to help themselves feel better and make money off the addict, they can&#039;t get a job in the real world. Most of them burnt bridges while they were active and reinvented their sick self&#039;s to feel important and some never finished school.. Read the Big Book. As far as knowing what a Sober Coach is it is a scam, a loser that feels empowered by knowledge of self. Someone that thinks they are entitled to change AA and then admit to going to meetings for their selfish reasons . They are super losers. You can not buy AA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AA has become so watered down by half of the people who have not done the steps, followed the traditions and they then make money off addiction. These people call themselves Sober Coaches,  form communities to help themselves feel better and make money off the addict, they can&#8217;t get a job in the real world. Most of them burnt bridges while they were active and reinvented their sick self&#8217;s to feel important and some never finished school.. Read the Big Book. As far as knowing what a Sober Coach is it is a scam, a loser that feels empowered by knowledge of self. Someone that thinks they are entitled to change AA and then admit to going to meetings for their selfish reasons . They are super losers. You can not buy AA</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.drinkingdiaries.com/2010/01/10/celebrities-and-sober-coaches/comment-page-1/#comment-30414</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you are trying to say, but sober companions/sober coaches are not &quot;sponsors&quot; or &quot;babysitters&quot;. I can&#039;t speak for other sober companions that keep their clients on as long as they can keep them. I work with clients for as short amount of time as possible and in the process guide them into a 12 step fellowship that works for them, while at the same time help them acclimate  into life. Treatment is also suggested in the literature of all 12 step programs. There is also a part about traditions in all of them about anonymity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you are trying to say, but sober companions/sober coaches are not &#8220;sponsors&#8221; or &#8220;babysitters&#8221;. I can&#8217;t speak for other sober companions that keep their clients on as long as they can keep them. I work with clients for as short amount of time as possible and in the process guide them into a 12 step fellowship that works for them, while at the same time help them acclimate  into life. Treatment is also suggested in the literature of all 12 step programs. There is also a part about traditions in all of them about anonymity.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Jaffe</title>
		<link>http://www.drinkingdiaries.com/2010/01/10/celebrities-and-sober-coaches/comment-page-1/#comment-25790</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Jaffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all you people who do not know what a sober coach does, please let me explain. One of the jobs of a sober coach is to take the client to a 12 step meeting every day they work with them. The majority 98% of sober coaches are all in recovery whether AA or NA, so to think that the stinking basement and the lousy coffee and the humbling experience does not happen with a sober coach is incorrect. i hope this helps all you uninformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all you people who do not know what a sober coach does, please let me explain. One of the jobs of a sober coach is to take the client to a 12 step meeting every day they work with them. The majority 98% of sober coaches are all in recovery whether AA or NA, so to think that the stinking basement and the lousy coffee and the humbling experience does not happen with a sober coach is incorrect. i hope this helps all you uninformed.</p>
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		<title>By: penny lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>penny lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>835 S. Claudina St. Apt. #B			 		Cell # (949) 228-7724<br />
Anaheim, CA. 92805		                       		 	Work #  (714) 633-0502<br />
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<p>Penny Lee</p>
<p>Objective :	To obtain a position as a Drug and Alcohol Counselor utilizing my education and life experience helping people that suffer from a disease, begin a new way of life.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
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		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a woman in recovery, I agree with jenne andrews. I attended AA for a year but didn&#039;t find its approach of tearing down your ego helpful. My sponsor didn&#039;t charge me, but she was also far from the picture of mental health. Half the time it felt like the blind leading the blind. If you&#039;re struggling to get sober, there are several alternatives to 12-step programs such as LifeRing or Women for Sobriety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a woman in recovery, I agree with jenne andrews. I attended AA for a year but didn&#8217;t find its approach of tearing down your ego helpful. My sponsor didn&#8217;t charge me, but she was also far from the picture of mental health. Half the time it felt like the blind leading the blind. If you&#8217;re struggling to get sober, there are several alternatives to 12-step programs such as LifeRing or Women for Sobriety.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabel Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
For me, as a narcicist, the only dose of humilty that I can get is recognizing my human misery in front of many people. No humilty no sober</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
For me, as a narcicist, the only dose of humilty that I can get is recognizing my human misery in front of many people. No humilty no sober</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Jaffe</title>
		<link>http://www.drinkingdiaries.com/2010/01/10/celebrities-and-sober-coaches/comment-page-1/#comment-13524</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Jaffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you mean well and I certainly agree with you in regard to 12 step meetings. I&#039;m a member myself who regularly attends meetings and I&#039;m also a sober coach who works with those people who come in and out of recovery and rehab programs and continue to use.  I&#039;m not a sponsor to my clients, I take them to meetings but what I do most of all is i bring hope to the addict who cannot stay clean even in the rooms of recovery and I&#039;m sure that you&#039;ve met those addicts who continue to suffer. I can only hope to inspire in these addicts their own desire and willingness to get clean &amp; sober and more importantly to find recovery. There is not &quot;one size fits all&quot;. I believe that the 12 step meetings are the best and most lasting ways to find recovery and what is better than to be on that boat to recovery than with alot of clean &amp; Sober friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you mean well and I certainly agree with you in regard to 12 step meetings. I&#8217;m a member myself who regularly attends meetings and I&#8217;m also a sober coach who works with those people who come in and out of recovery and rehab programs and continue to use.  I&#8217;m not a sponsor to my clients, I take them to meetings but what I do most of all is i bring hope to the addict who cannot stay clean even in the rooms of recovery and I&#8217;m sure that you&#8217;ve met those addicts who continue to suffer. I can only hope to inspire in these addicts their own desire and willingness to get clean &amp; sober and more importantly to find recovery. There is not &#8220;one size fits all&#8221;. I believe that the 12 step meetings are the best and most lasting ways to find recovery and what is better than to be on that boat to recovery than with alot of clean &amp; Sober friends.</p>
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		<title>By: jenne andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.drinkingdiaries.com/2010/01/10/celebrities-and-sober-coaches/comment-page-1/#comment-4280</link>
		<dc:creator>jenne andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming to this late-- but thanks!  xxxj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming to this late&#8211; but thanks!  xxxj</p>
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		<title>By: jenne andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.drinkingdiaries.com/2010/01/10/celebrities-and-sober-coaches/comment-page-1/#comment-2996</link>
		<dc:creator>jenne andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi-- followed your link on She Writes.  Wow.  

Well, I have to say that for me, as an alcohol-abstinent person who has found AA w-a-a-y too disempowering and regimented and regulated, there are other ways of staying sober.  This is a hugely entertaining piece and your blog is fascinating.  my personal belief is that addicts need help with their denial, but most of us feel like we are nothing anyway, and we also need self-belief.  All of that is antithetical to AA.  best  Jenne&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi&#8211; followed your link on She Writes.  Wow.  </p>
<p>Well, I have to say that for me, as an alcohol-abstinent person who has found AA w-a-a-y too disempowering and regimented and regulated, there are other ways of staying sober.  This is a hugely entertaining piece and your blog is fascinating.  my personal belief is that addicts need help with their denial, but most of us feel like we are nothing anyway, and we also need self-belief.  All of that is antithetical to AA.  best  Jenne&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
		<link>http://www.drinkingdiaries.com/2010/01/10/celebrities-and-sober-coaches/comment-page-1/#comment-1830</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree with you more!  The people I have known that have successfully battled an addiction have done so with a sense humility and personal responsibility.  Two things that don&#039;t have a price tag!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree with you more!  The people I have known that have successfully battled an addiction have done so with a sense humility and personal responsibility.  Two things that don&#8217;t have a price tag!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly!  <img src='http://www.drinkingdiaries.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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